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Ah there it is...a way to blame Bush:
From Sweetness and Light, posted verbatim:
From ceaselessly terrorist enabling New York Times:
Super Bowl Ads of Cartoonish Violence, Perhaps Reflecting Toll of War
By STUART ELLIOTT
February 5, 2007
No commercial that appeared last night during Super Bowl XLI directly addressed Iraq, unlike a patriotic spot for Budweiser beer that ran during the game two years ago. But the ongoing war seemed to linger just below the surface of many of this year’s commercials.
More than a dozen spots celebrated violence in an exaggerated, cartoonlike vein that was intended to be humorous, but often came across as cruel or callous.
For instance, in a commercial for Bud Light beer, sold by Anheuser-Busch, one man beat the other at a game of rock, paper, scissors by throwing a rock at his opponent’s head.
In another Bud Light spot, face-slapping replaced fist-bumping as the cool way for people to show affection for one another. In a FedEx commercial, set on the moon, an astronaut was wiped out by a meteor. In a spot for Snickers candy, sold by Mars, two co-workers sought to prove their masculinity by tearing off patches of chest hair.
There was also a bank robbery (E*Trade Financial), fierce battles among office workers trapped in a jungle (CareerBuilder), menacing hitchhikers (Bud Light again) and a clash between a monster and a superhero reminiscent of a horror movie (Garmin).
It was as if Madison Avenue were channeling Doc in “West Side Story,” the gentle owner of the candy store in the neighborhood that the two street gangs, the Jets and Sharks, fight over. “Why do you kids live like there’s a war on?” Doc asks plaintively. (Well, Doc, this time, there is.)
During other wars, Madison Avenue has appealed to a yearning for peace. That was expressed in several Super Bowl spots evocative of “Hilltop,” the classic Coca-Cola commercial from 1971, when the Vietnam War divided a world that needed to be taught to sing in perfect harmony…
Not a sparrow falls that it isn’t Bush’s fault.
Or rather there is no subject too far afield that cannot be pressed into service by the New York Times to press their America-hating agenda.
… and a clash between a monster and a superhero reminiscent of a horror movie (Garmin).
"Horror movie"? Try a Japanese monster movie. (Which, some claimed at the time, were allegories about the Cold War.)
I guess the Solons at the New York Times don’t get out much.
Couldnt have said it better myself if I tried.
Labels: Blame Bush, moonbats, moonbattery, PC ran amok
posted by LiberalismIsAMentalDisorder @ 06:57
16 Comments:
I saw those commercials. How are they related to Iraq? The only one that might even come close is the peace loving, Coca Cola commercial, but that-to me- was appealing for peace in our own society. That commcercial basically was saying- do something nice in your neighborhood.
Whatever. Do violent sports portray the Iraq war too?? Were the Colts the insurgents and the Bears the US military? HA Ha Ha!
Are you inferring that the insurgents are winning?
Snicker
How is it that someone who disagrees with your twisted and uninformed views is "America-hater". Are you really that intollerant that you must take such childish and irresponsible claims? It's really just a bore - and makes any chance to try and understand your point (if you have one besides hatred) almost impossible. I don't hate America. I certainly hate the imperial policies our government has imposed for the last 50+ years.
- Wage slave
Wage slave...you hate America
Admit it and we can move on.
If you fail to see the article for what it is...blaming Bush for the bad commercials...then you are blinded by your hatred of the man.
Which makes you narrow minded
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Wage slave, I deleted your profanity laced vulgar response.
If you want to try it again without the profane language and make an intelligent point, you will have the floor.
I'll try. Though I don't recall using any profanity or vulgarness (which apparently is only allowed if one agrees with your vulgar ideas). I'm also surprised at your request for an intelligent post - as that does not seem to be a requirement for non-liberals either...
I was saying that I don't see any reference to Bush in that article and fail to see how it blaims Bush for bad commercials. It seems to making a claim as to the acceptance of violence in our culture.
Anyway, my question to you is why is it that someone who disagrees with your twisted views on patriotism etc. is an America-hater? Oh yeah, now I remember - I agreed with you about my hatred for Bush - saying how I never hated someone I never met as much as him. I believe I also called him a war-criminal, which by Geneva Convention definitions is not innacurate.
Blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotism!
That would be an interesting discussion- RE: Bush=War Criminal according to the Geneva Conventions. Maybe I'll go read the Geneva Conventions (again) and see what I can find and we can discuss this on my blog. If, anonymous poster, you have specific references within the Geneva Conventions, please post them in the most recent comments section on my blog.
Thanks. Stay tuned to my blog and, hopefully, we can get into this.
As for the article here, I do not specifically see Bush's name, but it does try to state the commercials were talking about the war. I didn't see that in those commercials. I just saw dumb commercials.
Much better wage slave, thank you.
Airborne Vet, who is very knowledgable on the Geneva Convention, has requested a dialogue on her blog, so I will watch for it. I am no expert on the conventions myself, only a passing familiarity, so please, put facts to the test.
As to whoever disagrees with me being non-american, I never said that. What I do contend is that those who are out there calling our soldiers murderers, making up lies about them and slandering our country are NON-AMERICAN and not the majority voice of America.
BTW, before you go quoting polls to back up a claim the majority of America doesnt support Bush, I suggest you research how I feel about polls...save yourself some frustration.
OK, you know what, maybe I’ve been misjudging the guy, letting my personal disdain for right wing hate, lies and greed get in the way of recognizing what a great world leader this President Bush is. But then again, let’s consider some facts:
Creating false claims to invade another country (that had nothing to do with 9/11 and the so-called war-on-terrorism). If that’s not a war crime, than how about a criminal war? You will never convince me that they didn’t know they were making up arguments for war because they knew the real reasons would never get the support needed.
But at the very least, we can say for sure that Bush initiated a war of aggression, unprovoked. That is a violation of UN Charter and International law.
But, you conservatives might say, to hell with International Law – it’s biased against the US and as for the U.N., blah, blah, blah…
So, how about these facts:
Detaining prisoners at Gauntanamo and elsewhere for years without trial or any form of due-process. I believe that is found in Article 51 of the UN Charter. But as to my point about the Geneva Conventions – this is SPECIFICALLY not allowed (deportation of enemy combatants) and furthermore, the detainee camp must be open to inspection by a third party – which it is not, nor are most of the “secret” locations even known.
Illegal wire-taps against US citizens. Illegal – as in crime.
Torture of Iraqi’s at Abu-Ghraib. Again, Geneva Conventions 101. Just not allowed, certainly by good Christian nations like ours.
So, there you have a few example of President AWOL’s (a reference to his own glorious military record) crimes. Bush is a liar, he is deceitful, he is criminal, he is vindictive, he is morally repugnant on so many levels. Yet the radical right continues to defend him. Why?
Blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotism.
One thing that many conservatives forget is that any treaty we sign, under the constitution, as legally binding as law on the country.
-Nick
Wage slave and Nick...all I want to do is point you guys here:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/02/11/no-evidence-of-a-saddam-osama/
Hmmm...slowly the lies unravel, dont they?
Oh please! You right-wing liars have no shame! The Bush regime CLEARLY made a connection of Saddam and 9/11 that was total fabrication. That is what we are talking about here.
Bush himself admitted less than 2 months ago there was no connection (re-iterating what the 9/11 comission reported)
That idiot-blog you refer to above might as well include Donald Rumsfeld as a terrorist too – after all, he met with Saddam in the 1980’s. Rubbish.
Here’s a few articles for you – maybe reading something besides rightwing blowhards and hate mongers will do you some good….
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4742.htm
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=80043&d=30&m=8&y=2006
Blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotism!
- wage slave
Wage slave, why dont you just admit that you have no argument and move on with your Bush hating rhetoric?
You cant see the forest for the trees....and your hatred of America and anything good and decent about this country is blinding your eyes to the truth. Instead of arguing the substance of the conversation, you have to change tactics and move on......nice, but it doesnt work here.
Try again or give up...you arent going to change my mind...so how frustrated do you want to get?
Dear minimum wage slave
1)"Creating false claims to invade another country "
Violation of God knows how many UN resolutions. REASON ENOUGH to go in. Clinton should have gone in. If he had NO 911.
2)"Detaining prisoners at Gauntanamo and elsewhere for years without trial or any form of due-process"
Found to be ok to hold them until hostilities end with TRIAL Bush ordered and then asked Congress to order.
3) "SPECIFICALLY not allowed (deportation of enemy combatants)"
WRONG, they a SPECIFICALLY required to remove them to a NON-COMBAT location.
4) "the detainee camp must be open to inspection by a third party"
What do you think the Red Cross is?
5)"Illegal wire-taps against US citizens"
They were found to be legal by the fed judge who oversees Secrecy Requests.
6)"Torture of Iraqi’s at Abu-Ghraib"
Since when is putting underwear on someone's head torture?
7)" AWOL’s (a reference to his own glorious military record)"
A record made up by "respected journalist" Dan Rather, who no long has a job as a journalist because he FAKED Bush record.
Not bad 0 for 7 fool
Mr(s?) Mentaldisorder,
I don't understand how I am changing the point of anything?? Our thread has led to the point of the Bush regime lies regarding the war in Iraq and about International laws. I was just responding the to your resident expert on the Geneva conventions.
Clearly I disagree with you on so many things - after all, it is how I was led to this fairly perverse part of the blog-sphere. Being new to this blog 'thing' I thought there were actually intelligent discussions going on - but alas, they are quite difficult to find - on both sides. (of course coming to a site named as this, I knew better than to expect intelligent discourse, so call me a 'troll' - big deal).
ANYWAY, I apparently miss the substance of your political points, so I will go away – in time. Also, I don’t feel frustrated – just kind of discouraged that the nuts like Rush Limbo and Sean Hannity have so brain-washed you that you just repeat the same crap over-and-over. I mean, hating America and anything good and decent about this country? Please, mentalcase, try to refrain from such ‘intelligent discourse’ – it is really intimidating to liberal minds. Maybe I will post on the things about this country that I love and hate – might make for a good thread??
OK, now to the person who calls themself WMD_maker. What does the WMD stand for?
1. Violations of UN resolutions does not make going to war against the will of most of your allies and the UN acceptable!! I like how you legitimize the UN in half your argument, and then ignore the point they were against the war. Typical of the right wing. I’ll take this one back.
2. “Found to be OK”. By who? I will admit I haven’t followed this entirely – so the international community has agreed with the 'right' of the US to transport captured enemies to Cuba and hold them until when? [I won’t take this back – or secede it yet either]
3. I think you are wrong and miss the point. Yes you must remove prisoners from harms way, but I read that you are not allowed to transport them to other countries. Bush regime is breaking international laws by transporting prisoners to secret interrogation camps around the world. [score 2 back for me]
4. Red Cross has visited the secret camps? I don’t think so. Did they visit Gitmo? [I get at least a ½ point for this – IF Red Cross has visited Gitmo, and you might be right in that they did – I think I recall this]
5. Couldn’t wait to get to this! You are wrong wrong wrong!!! The policy was a violation of law and the US Constitution. If you are going to continue to defend this practice, – then why did they drop the policy? Hmmm? [Clearly one more back for me!]
6. Wow – right wing denial at its best! Putting underwear on the heads of prisoners is not torture – you are right. Unfortunately, that isn’t what happened. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/torture_pow.html [I get ANOTHER one back.]
7. Damn Rather! The Bushies REALLY did a great job covering up his military “record”. Since no one seems to really know where he was when he was in the "service", I will concede a lack of facts – EITHER WAY. But since I said AWOL, in my disdain for this putrid president, and cannot back it up, I conceded this point to you.
So there you have it. (All 6 people who will probably read this, oh well).
Clearly I am correct on 4 of these 7 points. I should get at least ½ credit for Red Cross /Gitmo point, and 1 other the jury is out. I concede you’re point in the Damn Rather story. Never liked him myself, and he ruined a great story – that is probably true, but was surely covered too well by Rove for any modern reporter.
Wage slave 4.5/7
WMD_Moker 1.5/7
I win. You can go back to listening to Limbo and Hannity now…
Oh, and I almost forgot - Happy Birthday Charles Darwin!
And don’t forget: especially you MentalDisorder, Blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotism!
- Wage slave
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